From the Message Board - 20 to 23 September
Posted by terry critchley on 21 September 2000 at 14:36:38:
I sent a letter about the IBM Pensions Scam and received the following from Paul Rodgers, IBM UK HR. My reply to him (unanswered) follows. IBM Confidential Dear Mr. Critchley, I have been asked to respond to your email to Mr. Gerstner on the subject of the IBM UK Pension Fund. The C Plan is a defined benefit plan and was introduced in 1983. In a defined benefit plan the Company carries the investment risk and at no stage are the accrued rights of members affected by negative fluctuations in the financial markets. In the past, the Company has had to make significant contributions due to market underperformance and such actions clearly demonstrate the Company?s integrity in discharging its duty towards employees. The funding of the Company's contribution to the Defined Contribution Scheme (M Plan) out of the surplus of the old Defined Benefit Schemes was agreed by the Trustee at the end of December 1996. The Trustee is a separate legal entity, bound by legally prescribed duties to both manage and safeguard the operation of the IBM UK Pensions Plans. The Trustee took independent, formal legal advice prior to agreeing to this form of funding to ensure that existing members' accrued rights were not impacted. This has subsequently been reconfirmed, and the Trustee will continue to monitor this situation in the light of any new relevant legal developments. As regards increases to pensions in payment under the C Plan, such increases are discretionary for service pre-April 1997. The introduction of a partial guarantee of pensions indexation for service post-April 1997 (known as LPI - Limited Price Indexation) was introduced in 1997 as part of the 1995 Pensions Act. The cost of this benefit enhancement could, legitimately, have been borne by employees - either through an increase in the employee contribution rate, or by a reduction in benefit. The Company agreed to underwrite the funding of this significant benefit improvement without recourse to employees. Unlike C Plan members, members of the M Plan are legally obliged to purchase indexation at 5% or RPI whichever is the lower. At retirement age M Plan members use their fund of money to purchase an annuity which will provide their pension in retirement including indexation. As a result the retirement pension at the outset will be lower than a pension benefit which is defined and which attracts discretionary increases. I trust that my comments above will serve to reassure you that your current level of pension is protected and is not impacted by the transfer of funds from the C to the M Plan. Although I cannot make a commitment as to what the level of any future increases may be, I can say that all relevant factors will be taken into account when future pension increases are being considered. Thank you for this opportunity to put the Company's position to you. Yours sincerely, Paul Rodgers, Director of Human Resources, UK & Ireland A3, IBM North Harbour. My reply:
Thank you Mr. Rodgers for your reply. I am sure what you say may the letter of the 'law' but is not in the spirit of it. Since the last pensions act, schemes now abide by the 5%/RPI increase clauses. Since the C-Plan is in surplus, I can see no reason why these increases, albeit 'discretionary', should not be applied to C-Plan pensions. Can you see any reason why not? One further question. For whose benefit is the C-Plan being managed? Terry Critchley
Posted by Roger Burtenshaw on 22 September 2000 at 20:23:59:
Paul Rogers reply ignores the fact that a fund, that we all contributed 4% to for all our IBM years, has been robbed to provide benefits to totally different population. Although the company can claim to bear the final investment risk, in a normal year employee contributions are about 40% of all new contributions. Whilst for the last few years employee contributions have been 100% of all new contributions. The current company contribution holiday is not the first holiday, I don't ever remember an employee contribution holiday.
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